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Old 03-20-2009, 09:26 AM
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Cobra Jet Controversy at NHRA
Weeks after Cobra Jet #4 rolled out of the Ford Racing / Roush facility in Livonia Michigan, it was coasting into victory lane at Auto Club Raceway in Pomona California. Driving the throwback white A/S (S is for Stick Shifted) “CJ” was Ford fanatic and drag race suspension guru John Calvert. Calvert had just won the Stock Eliminator class at the opening round of the 2009 NHRA season. The win was impressive considering most drag cars take months and months of sorting before they “run the number”.



In the later rounds at Pomona, Calvert’s stick-shifted CJ was bracket car consistent with runs in the 10.13 – 10.15 e.t. range. The Cobra Jet is not your typical drag race spec Mustang. This car was built by Ford Racing and is the first of many entries in the factory stock class war and a hopeful return of factory involvement in the sportsman ranks. Stock class racers around the country were watching and worrying about the new “factory” effort in their competitive class. Ford has it's act together - and the old guys were scared.

Seasoned Stock and Super Stock veterans had reasons to worry. Their time and money fine tuning 60’s and 70’s era “legal” Stockers might have been made obsolete by a new entry from Ford Racing. Overly "conservative" NHRA horsepower submissions was the main theory being made about on internet message boards.



The question was asked and debated: “How can a 5.4-liter supercharged engine rated at 540 horsepower in the 2010 GT500 be submitted to NHRA rated at 425? The long block is basically the GT500 spec plus a cold air intake and massive Accufab MAF housing and throttle body. Who’s fooling who here? Mr. Calvert’s quote in a New York Times article saying, “he could squeeze 700 (horsepower) out of it “with just a few simple tune-up tricks” added a few flames to the fire.

Has Ford managed to play a game of hide the potato with NHRA? And where did all this horsepower go!?

In this day and age of laptop tuning and “valet modes” from auto manufacturers, there is no doubt the cars were underrated and that’s the bain for some of the NHRA Sportsman racers. It’s not the first time late model cars and their computer controls have created controversy. The fuel-injected Camro and Firebird (particularly the Ram-Air hood models) created quite a stir in the late 90’s.



Over the years NHRA finally factored the cars correctly to where a carbureted “classic” stood a chance on the 1320. Now with the Cobra Jet, not only do you have a computer controlling and adjusting air/fuel you also have a very efficient supercharger thrown into the mix. It's a good play by Ford, and a championship may be the result?

How will this all play out? 2008 Cobra Jets were absent from the Gatornationals class run-offs so no one got to see a real heads up race. Here’s hoping that some CJ’s show up at Indy where all the big dogs come to play. These cars will continue to be the talk of the town in the Stock and Super Stock pits. CJ’s will continue to get quicker and more consistent.

Time will only tell what NHRA, known for its tendency to drag things out, will do the create equality in the class.
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I have to say that NHRA should NOT have allowed these cars to run in the stock or Super stock classes. What other cars in this class have had blowers? Also, I know for a fact from a tunner where I live that these cars can make over 600hp with a tune. Ford says they are making 425hp from the factory. NHRA needs to look hard at these cars or risk making a joke out of the STock classes. Oh, NHRA is turning into a joke, so this is fitting!
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:06 PM
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I have to say that NHRA should NOT have allowed these cars to run in the stock or Super stock classes. What other cars in this class have had blowers? Also, I know for a fact from a tunner where I live that these cars can make over 600hp with a tune. Ford says they are making 425hp from the factory. NHRA needs to look hard at these cars or risk making a joke out of the STock classes. Oh, NHRA is turning into a joke, so this is fitting!
It's for sure a hot button issue. However, I think it's very cool that Ford is spending the resources to build these cars. It's a real testament to Ford's commitment to drag racing.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:53 PM
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I have to say that NHRA should NOT have allowed these cars to run in the stock or Super stock classes. What other cars in this class have had blowers? Also, I know for a fact from a tunner where I live that these cars can make over 600hp with a tune. Ford says they are making 425hp from the factory. NHRA needs to look hard at these cars or risk making a joke out of the STock classes. Oh, NHRA is turning into a joke, so this is fitting!
Really? Not run in Stock or Super stock classes? Why not?
Are you mad because none of the other cars came with a supercharger FROM THE FACTORY????
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:56 PM
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Really? Not run in Stock or Super stock classes? Why not? Are you mad because none of the other cars came with a supercharger FROM THE FACTORY????
I think there is something certainly much easier about regulating non-power adder cars. What about turbocharged vehicles? Regulation becomes much more complex, don't you think?
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Not really. How do OTHER sanctioning bodies deal with turbo cars? They seem to handle them pretty easy.
But let's not bring turbo cars into the mix, since there's like only two viable US factory cars we could talk about.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:13 PM
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Not really. How do OTHER sanctioning bodies deal with turbo cars? They seem to handle them pretty easy.
But let's not bring turbo cars into the mix, since there's like only two viable US factory cars we could talk about.
As somebody that had to regulate turbos, I sure don't think they are handled easily. What sanctions are you referring to?
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I have to say that NHRA should NOT have allowed these cars to run in the stock or Super stock classes. What other cars in this class have had blowers? Also, I know for a fact from a tunner where I live that these cars can make over 600hp with a tune. Ford says they are making 425hp from the factory. NHRA needs to look hard at these cars or risk making a joke out of the STock classes. Oh, NHRA is turning into a joke, so this is fitting!
Ford may have been first with the paxton blown 312 in '57. Then Studebaker in '63, Buick in the '80's w/ turbo's. To my knowledge, NHRA has always taken the factory's hp rating and adjusted it to what they think it should be. On new combos like this, they might not move it much, if they win everything in the first half of the season they'll get factered heavily (way heavily when it's a Ford or Chrysler). Maybe they're just trying to get more interest in stock/ super stock.
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What's the problem? The goal is to get down the track as fast as possible.....Right? If it fits in the rules and is allowed, then the issue is solved.
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The answer is simple, NHRA should be dyno testing these cars themselves. It would only take one dyno session to solve this entire thing.
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